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<h1 data-aos="fade-down" id="daily-dose">Daily-Dose</h1>
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<h1 data-aos="fade-right" data-aos-anchor-placement="top-bottom" id="contents">Contents</h1>
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<li><a href="#from-new-yorker">From New Yorker</a></li>
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<li><a href="#from-vox">From Vox</a></li>
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<li><a href="#from-the-hindu-sports">From The Hindu: Sports</a></li>
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<li><a href="#from-the-hindu-national-news">From The Hindu: National News</a></li>
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<li><a href="#from-bbc-europe">From BBC: Europe</a></li>
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<li><a href="#from-ars-technica">From Ars Technica</a></li>
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<li><a href="#from-jokes-subreddit">From Jokes Subreddit</a></li>
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<h1 data-aos="fade-right" id="from-new-yorker">From New Yorker</h1>
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<li><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>Afghanistan, Again, Becomes a Cradle for Jihadism—and Al Qaeda</strong> - The terrorist group has outlasted the trillion-dollar U.S. investment in Afghanistan since 9/11. - <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/afghanistan-again-becomes-a-cradle-for-jihadism-and-al-qaeda">link</a></p></li>
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<li><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>Have You Already Had a Breakthrough COVID Infection?</strong> - The question of what “infection” means is just one of the riddles posed by the late-stage pandemic. - <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/science/medical-dispatch/have-you-already-had-a-breakthrough-covid-infection">link</a></p></li>
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<li><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>Meeting “the Other Side”: Conversations with Men Accused of Sexual Assault</strong> - In 2011, I helped launch a movement to aid survivors on college campuses. That meant I also had to think hard about the rights of those under scrutiny. - <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-activism/meeting-the-other-side-conversations-with-men-accused-of-%20sexual-assault">link</a></p></li>
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<li><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>U.S. Retaliation for the Kabul Bombing Won’t Stop ISIS or End Terrorism</strong> - The central flaw in U.S. strategy is the belief that military force can eradicate extremist groups or radical ideologies. - <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/us-retaliation-for-the-kabul-bombing-wont-stop-isis-or-end-%20terrorism">link</a></p></li>
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<li><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>The Mayoral Candidate with a Mouth That Roars</strong> - Curtis Sliwa, the Republican nominee, expects his opponent to paint him as racist, sexist, and homophobic. But he’s ready to strike back. - <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-local-correspondents/the-mayoral-candidate-with-a-mouth-that-roars">link</a></p></li>
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<h1 data-aos="fade-right" id="from-vox">From Vox</h1>
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<li><strong>Hurricane Ida could ravage the Covid-strained Gulf Coast</strong> -
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<img alt="People in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, fill up sand bags as they prepare for Hurricane Ida making
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landfall." src="https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/l4qR4hEjHazifFCg2Ltzfi6k8OI=/0x0:2132x1599/1310x983/cdn.vox-
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People in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, fill up sand bags as they prepare for Hurricane Ida making landfall. | Courtesy of Khalid Hudson
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Hospitals in the South are already stretched with coronavirus patients. The powerful storm could make things worse.
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Hurricane season brings a unique set of difficulties for the East Coast, and particularly the South. Like other natural disasters, hurricanes can lay bare inadequate infrastructure, political ineptitude, and stark racial and economic inequalities. For residents of the Gulf Coast region, Hurricane Ida comes 16 years — to the day — after <a href="http://britannica.com/event/Hurricane-Katrina">Hurricane Katrina</a> and its devastating aftermath killed more than 1,800 people.
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Ida is scheduled to hit Louisiana <a href="https://apnews.com/article/new-orleans-storms-hurricanes-tropical-storms-science--
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d4b3399437cc5ccb7e76aa270a63f724">Sunday night</a> as a Category 4 hurricane, with winds of up to 156 miles per hour. Storms of that caliber are expected to cause “catastrophic damage,” according to the <a href="https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutsshws.php">National Hurricane Center</a>.
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But now, there’s the added strain of a Covid resurgence, which is hitting this region particularly hard; Louisiana’s intensive care units are almost full, <a href="https://www.insider.com/louisiana-hospitals-near-capacity-covid-hurricane-ida-
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approaches-2021-8">Insider reports</a>.
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According to the <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK54237/">National Academy of Sciences</a> (NAS), Louisiana evacuated around 1.5 million people in preparation for Hurricane Katrina; between 150,000 and 200,000 stayed put, either because they didn’t have the resources to leave or because they chose to remain. In the aftermath, several hospitals flooded and had to be evacuated.
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That was complicated enough without a global pandemic surging.
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<img alt="The National Weather Service’s projection of Hurricane Ida’s path." src="https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/fE0rY5lz1DQWBP2wO00uINk54wQ=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-
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cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/22811811/nws_hurricane_ida.jpg"/> <cite>National Weather Service New Orleans</cite>
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The National Weather Service’s projection of Hurricane Ida’s path, as of Saturday at 2 p.m. Eastern.
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According to the NAS, “In the initial days following the storm flooding of Hurricane Katrina, the state evacuated approximately 12,000 caregivers and their patients from 25 hospitals. This was a slow process. In some cases, patients were evacuated one or two at a time by boat to a helipad where they were transferred to a helicopter that brought them to the airport, from which they were flown to other states.”
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Hospitals in neighboring <a href="https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/14,21994,420,873.html">Mississippi</a> and <a href="https://www.wsfa.com/2021/08/27/alabama-hospital-crisis-intensifies-66-now-waiting-icu-beds/">Alabama</a> — parts of which are also in the path of Ida — are already struggling with capacity because of the<strong> </strong>delta variant of Covid-19. <a href="http://cnn.com/2021/08/25/us/mississippi-covid-nurse-
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strain/index.html?utm_content=2021-08-28T04%3A00%3A13&utm_source=fbCNN&utm_medium=social&utm_term=link&fbclid=IwAR2qtuvny3hThW6y2ncdjYNnajqzndmjCiJA1IJjmVokyuYj9R6yEOVF5H4">CNN</a> reports that around 2,000 Mississippi nurses have resigned during the pandemic.
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The pandemic has exposed the country’s systemic <a href="https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/covid-19-pandemic-highlights-
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longstanding-health-inequities-in-u-s/">unequal access to health care</a>. In Baton Rouge, that divide is particularly stark, according to senior organizer for nonprofit<strong> </strong>Together Baton Rouge Khalid Hudson.
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“The biggest issue is the lack of equitable investment in predominantly Black areas,” he said, adding<strong> </strong>that all of the city’s hospitals are in the southern, predominantly white, part of the city.
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“If there is flooding and people are getting hurt, where are they to go?”
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<a href="https://apnews.com/article/53e4d2566c75488a83a3a6cb82796a79">Unprecedented floods</a> devastated Baton Rouge just five years ago, the result of torrential rainfall in a slow-moving weather system. “2016 was a 100-year flood; five years later, we are having the same thing,” Hudson said.
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“These things are happening more and more rapidly.”
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Climate change both <a href="https://www.vox.com/21452781/zogg-fire-glass-wildfire-
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california-climate-change-hurricanes-attribution-2020-debate">contributes</a> to more, and stronger, natural disasters, and weakens a community’s ability to withstand those events. In Louisiana’s case, coastal land erosion contributes to the ability of a hurricane like Ida to wreak havoc inland.
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“Having already lost nearly 2,000 square miles of land (approximately the size of Delaware), Louisiana desperately needs every tool at its disposal to build and maintain as much of our coastline as possible. Our natural defenses, such as barrier islands and wetlands, help reduce storm surge, offering protection for the people and infrastructure further inland,” the <a href="https://lawildlifefed.org/2020/08/katrina-15th-anniversary/">Louisiana Wildlife Federation</a> wrote on the 15th anniversary of Hurricane Katrina.
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<img alt="Residents drive on Interstate
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Highway 55 near Magnolia, Mississippi, as they evacuate away from New Orleans, before the arrival of Hurricane Ida." src="https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/jz0UllSvzwZRmKtwfjLW3kT6prA=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-
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cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/22811809/1234924039.jpg"/> <cite>Photo by PATRICK T. FALLON/AFP via Getty Images</cite>
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Residents drive on Interstate Highway 55 near Magnolia, Mississippi, as they evacuate away from New Orleans on Aug. 28, 2021, before the arrival of Hurricane Ida.
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Hurricane Katrina registered as a <a href="https://www.weather.gov/mob/katrina">Category 3</a>, while Ida is expected to have more intense winds at landfall as a Category 4.
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“This will be a life-altering storm for those who aren’t prepared,” according to National Weather Service meteorologist Benjamin Schott, who spoke during a <a href="https://apnews.com/article/new-orleans-storms-hurricanes-tropical-storms-science--
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d4b3399437cc5ccb7e76aa270a63f724">press conference </a>Friday with Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards.
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“This will be one of the strongest hurricanes to hit Louisiana since the 1850s,” <a href="https://www.wwltv.com/article/weather/severe-weather/liveblog-hurricane-ida-1-day-out-from-
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landfall/289-04be2a13-8498-4c37-8cb6-bcaf4979df99">Edwards said</a>. Whether New Orleans’ infrastructure is up to the challenge remains to be seen. Officials warned of widespread power outages, and at a Friday press conference, New Orleans Sewerage and Water Board Executive Director Ghassan Korban discussed repairs to Turbine 4, one of the city’s power generators that’s been out of commission for the past several months, <a href="https://www.nola.com/news/politics/article_aacd543a-075e-11ec-b6f6-eb09c3a2f99d.amp.html">Nola.com</a> reports.
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Those generators help run the city’s drainage system, which depends on pump stations. Turbine 4 repairs are expected to be completed Saturday, but three of the city’s pumps are still offline.
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“This is not an ideal situation but it’s also a very manageable situation,” Korban said Friday.
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New Orleans Mayor LaToya Cantrell issued a mandatory evacuation order for part of the city outside the levee system, the <a href="https://apnews.com/article/new-orleans-storms-hurricanes-tropical-storms-science--
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d4b3399437cc5ccb7e76aa270a63f724">AP reported</a>, but declined to evacuate the whole city because the storm was intensifying too quickly.
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This means that residents who stay behind might need to escape to a shelter — which could be a minefield during a global pandemic, <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hurricane-ida-new-orleans-
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louisiana-braces-category-4-storm/">CBS News reports</a>. In addition to food, water, and other essentials, Hudson told Vox, Baton Rouge residents are being encouraged to stock up on face masks and hand sanitizer.
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And while COVID cases are down 27 percent throughout the state in the past two weeks, according to <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/louisiana-covid-cases.html">the New York Times</a>, only about half of Louisiana’s residents are vaccinated. Unvaccinated people account for 91 percent of current hospitalizations, according to the <a href="https://ldh.la.gov/Coronavirus/">Louisiana Department of Health</a>.
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Retired Army <a href="https://generalhonore.com/">Lt. Gen. Russel L. Honoré</a>, who coordinated the military’s relief operations after Hurricane Katrina, <a href="https://twitter.com/ltgrusselhonore/status/1431418432189239296?s=20">tweeted</a> Friday that local leaders should “think like it’s another #Katrina or #Gustav,” warning of flooding and power outages.
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><img alt="People load a generator onto a pick-up truck, ahead of Hurricane Ida." src="https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/DTa1B7-UrzIyXrJpRWqtcsYwDUw=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-
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Home improvement store employees help a customer load a generator onto a pick-up truck in McComb, Mississippi, as residents prepare for Hurricane Ida, on Aug. 28, 2021.
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Others who lived through Hurricane Katrina’s devastation are bracing for crisis yet again, as the Louisiana National Guard prepares to send in personnel and storm-ready equipment to assist in rescue and relief efforts.
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“Ida is supposed to make landfall on the anniversary of Katrina,” Mississippi educator George Stewart II <a href="https://twitter.com/gs2project/status/1431460041132056577">tweeted</a> Friday.
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“Brings back memories. I was living in Gulfport when Katrina hit. People forget how bad we got slammed on the Mississippi Gulf Coast.”
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Stewart’s tweet is a reminder that the destruction and havoc of Hurricane Katrina were widespread, affecting a far larger area than New Orleans alone. And the effects of that storm — and the compounding devastation of storms like Hurricane Rita and Hurricane Gustav — never fade completely.
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As Eric Gardner, a 54-year-old lifelong New Orleans resident whose family lived through Hurricane Katrina, <a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-orleans-prepares-for-hurricane-ida-11630159086">told</a> the Wall Street Journal, “We’re on pins and needles.”
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While his family has evacuated, Gardner, who is a municipal worker, is staying behind as an essential worker.
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“There ain’t nothing we can do but try to survive.”
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Former Army Capt. Jackie Munn at Forward Operating Base Salerno, in Khost province, Afghanistan, in 2012. | Courtesy of Leigh Murchison
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I helped Afghan women seek maternal care. I worry what will become of these mothers and children.
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Inside a clinic in eastern Afghanistan, a nine-months-pregnant Afghan woman shivered on an old metal bed as an Afghan midwife examined her. It was 2012, and the war in Afghanistan had already been going on for 11 years. The woman had just traveled from an outlying village along the Pakistan border, seeking a safe place to deliver her third child. After repeated miscarriages, her family was determined to make their way to the Afghan government’s sponsored clinic at the district’s center,<strong> </strong>where they had heard news about better maternal outcomes.
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Part of my job, as a Cultural Support Team (CST) leader with special operations in the US military, was to inform families like theirs about the clinic. The midwives there could facilitate a safer delivery that might not have happened otherwise, like when the Taliban was in power during the 1990s. The pregnant patient would spend several days at the clinic, waiting out her delivery and returning to her village after recovering from labor.
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When the Taliban entered Kabul and <a href="https://www.vox.com/2021/8/15/22626082/kabul-capital-fall-
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afghanistan-government-taliban-forces-explained">reclaimed control over Afghanistan</a> earlier this month, I was at a baseball game with my son. I frantically scoured through news reports while fans cheered and my kid devoured ice cream. I worried about the many Afghans I worked alongside, like that mother and her family whom I had the honor of meeting. What will become of pregnant women and their children? What about the midwives, the clinic, and the district? Or the Afghan police and soldiers I served with? I felt simultaneously helpless, unable to do anything in the moment, and guilty for being at a ballgame with fans singing along to “God Bless America” while this other country I cared about was falling apart.
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For 10 months in 2012, I was stationed near the Afghan-Pakistan border as a CST — a program created when the military realized that after nearly a decade at war, it was a problem that all-male combat units were unable to interact with the Afghan female population. Our team did a number of things, but one of our aims was to make it safer for women to travel to and from the clinic. We also went from village to village, informing everyone about the clinic’s capabilities — like how it could provide medicines, immunizations, prenatal care, and a safe place to deliver their babies and recuperate under the watchful eye of trained medical professions.
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Our CST was mostly<strong> </strong>met with curiosity, since almost none of the locals had ever seen an American woman before. Only when insurgents were nearby were the locals distant. As a tribal society, the Pashtuns prided themselves on their commitment to the Pashtunwali, an ethical code and way of life defined by laws, culture, and tradition, of which hospitality is deeply valued. When we met with midwives most weeks, we sat knee to knee on a red rug that covered the clinic’s cold tiles, discussing the stories of the pregnant patients over cups of chai.
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="4aHHmU">
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Our CST’s relationship with the midwives was critical because they had daily interactions and access to the female population, and knew what type of support the women needed from the government. Together, we’d talk about villages they and the women avoided, or which villagers never came to the clinic because they were too fearful of reprisals from nearby insurgents, which helped us understand the threats facing the women in the district.
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But now that the Taliban control the country, I worry about these women and what will become of these clinics. While the Taliban are saying that <a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/08/17/1028391403/afghanistan-women-taliban-
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government">they’ll respect women’s rights (within the context of Islamic law</a>), their history of violence coupled with recent reports of <a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/afghans-tell-of-executions-forced-marriages-in-taliban-
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held-areas-11628780820">women being forced into marriages with Taliban fighters</a> and being <a href="https://inews.co.uk/news/world/taliban-attack-women-and-children-with-whips-as-they-desperately-try-to-reach-
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kabul-airport-1156245">attacked for trying to flee the country at the airport</a> make me doubtful.
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="KYIxKv">
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Like those of many citizens, veterans’ opinions about America’s involvement in Afghanistan vary. Many of my friends are upset about our rapid withdrawal and the lack of planning to evacuate those in need. Many of them have messaged me about how bleak and unreal the situation feels. Some feel utterly powerless. Their concerns echo my own frustrations and heartache. Since Biden announced the US was withdrawing from Afghanistan, I’ve been vested in helping our allies get out of the country. But once Kabul fell, I felt utterly dejected. I’ve found myself cycling through the various stages of grief: disbelief that the Taliban rose so quickly, anger in our nation’s lack of coordinated efforts to rescue and aid our Afghan allies, and depression at feeling like I’m too far away to actually effect change.
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</p>
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="5lPHGC">
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But I am choosing not to allow those feelings of hopelessness consume me. That evening, after holding back tears at the baseball game, I returned home, got on my laptop, and got back to work. For the past few weeks, I’ve partnered with an inspiring team of veterans and civilians to help our Afghan allies get evacuated. Together, we’ve filled out paperwork, applied for visas, and coordinated efforts to get people into Kabul airport and onto flights out of the country. There have been days I’ve broken down, crying at the sheer chaos of it all, like after hearing the news that <a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/afghanistan-kabul-airport-
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explosion-11629976397">13 US service members and at least 90 Afghans were killed </a>in a suicide bombing orchestrated by ISIS-K. Other times, I’ve been inspired by the work. All I can do is hope that our efforts ripple, reaching those who need it the most.
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</p>
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="aZgCY1">
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<a href="https://twitter.com/munn_jackie"><em>Jackie Munn</em></a><em> is a West Point graduate and former Army captain who served in Iraq and Afghanistan. After her service, Jackie became a nurse practitioner and writer.</em>
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<ul>
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<li><strong>ISIS-K, explained by an expert</strong> -
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<img alt="" src="https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/tzFmotRQ_-
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Relatives load into a car the coffin of a victim of the August 26 twin suicide bombs outside the Kabul airport. | Aamir Qureshi/AFP via Getty Images
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom">
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What to know about the Afghanistan offshoot of the group in Iraq and Syria that waged a deadly attack at the Kabul airport.
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="3Ks3Ah">
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The United States issued a warning this week amid the crush and chaos at the Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul, Afghanistan: <a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-warns-of-islamic-state-threat-to-americans-in-afghanistan-11629648314">Avoid the area because of a possible ISIS terror attack</a>.
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</p>
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="eTSuBj">
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On Thursday, the threat bore out. The full tragedy of the attack is still unclear, but <a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/08/27/1031649747/kabul-airport-explosions-
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afghanistan-dead-evacuations">at least 170 Afghans</a> and 13 US service members were killed in an<strong> </strong>explosion around Kabul airport, <a href="https://twitter.com/wesleysmorgan/status/1430972012504231940?s=20">the deadliest day for American combat troops in Afghanistan in a decade</a>.
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</p>
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="cAL7KP">
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The <a href="https://www.csis.org/programs/transnational-threats-project/past-projects/terrorism-backgrounders/islamic-state-
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khorasan">Islamic State in Khorasan Province,</a> or ISIS-K, <a href="https://abcnews.go.com/US/isis-claims-
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responsibility-explosions-kabuls-airport-agenda/story?id=79661533">claimed responsibility</a>. The organization is an offshoot of the original group<strong> </strong>in Iraq and Syria, and it emerged in 2015, <a href="https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/timeline-the-rise-spread-and-fall-the-islamic-state">not long after ISIS had consolidated territory in Iraq and Syria</a>. In Afghanistan, ISIS is building toward its goal of establishing a global caliphate.
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</p>
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="11tTtX">
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Ex-Taliban filled ISIS-K’s ranks early on, and the two groups have morphed into enemies, fighting each other and trying to sell their competing ideologies to recruits. The United States-led coalition in Afghanistan also battered ISIS-K in recent years — occasionally even <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/10/22/taliban-isis-drones-afghanistan/">ending up on the Taliban’s side of the battle against the ISIS offshoot</a>.<strong> </strong>Those efforts weakened the group but never dismantled it.
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</p>
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="axiRaL">
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Thursday’s attack was a reminder of that ongoing presence — and a reminder of ISIS’s ability to sow chaos and confusion, says Andrew Mines, a research fellow at the Program on Extremism at George Washington University.
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</p>
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<figure class="e-image">
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<img alt="Workers in the aftermath of the bombing of Kabul’s airport
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wheel a gurney past a barricade." src="https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/xN8qTX-
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cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/22809888/GettyImages_1234881175_copy.jpg"/> <cite>Sayed Khodaiberdi Sadat/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images</cite>
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<figcaption>
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The full tragedy of the attack is still unclear, but at least 170 Afghans and 13 US service members were killed in the<strong> </strong>explosion.
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</figcaption>
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</figure>
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="HzJOGb">
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ISIS-K is doing this right as the US is leaving because, Mines says, facilitating “an increased US and international footprint” aligns with their bigger goal of discrediting the Taliban.
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</p>
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="vuar9k">
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“If ISIS-K can force that [international presence], it makes the Taliban both look as collaborators with the West — which is really good for ISIS-K messaging — but also like failed collaborators, right? ‘You can’t even provide security, you’re incapable of ruling this nation, we [ISIS] are the viable alternative,’” says Mines, who is co-authoring a book on the Islamic State Khorasan with <a href="https://twitter.com/AmiraJadoon/status/1430617225635979264?s=20">Amira Jadoon</a>, an expert on the group. “It is almost certainly to discredit the Taliban and their ability to hold power and deliver security.”
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</p>
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="cHgXOT">
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Vox spoke to Mines about that rivalry with the Taliban, plus ISIS-K’s origins, the possible motivations behind Thursday’s attack, and what America’s withdrawal from Afghanistan might mean for the terror group.
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</p>
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="CaK4Ua">
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Our conversation, edited for length and clarity, is below.
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</p>
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<hr class="p-entry-hr" id="DtpR9y"/>
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<h4 id="nhW33v">
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Jen Kirby
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="TtVDhe">
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Let’s start with the basics. Who, or what, is ISIS-K?
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</p></li>
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<h4 id="kzn9ok">
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Andrew Mines
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Islamic State’s Khorasan Province — ISIS-K, IS-KP, IS-K, it goes by a bunch of different acronyms. It’s the official affiliate of the Islamic State group in Afghanistan. It was the official affiliate in Afghanistan and Pakistan, but in 2019, there was a split, and now it has distinct provinces for Afghanistan and Pakistan. So right now, ISIS-K is focused solely on Afghanistan. It’s been recognized by the Islamic State group leaders in Iraq and Syria and was officially founded in January 2015.
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</p>
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<h4 id="U53cEl">
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||
Jen Kirby
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</h4>
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="jY4oVB">
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What was the impetus for starting an ISIS offshoot in Afghanistan?
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</p>
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<h4 id="iz76x2">
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Andrew Mines
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</h4>
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="DScMqV">
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In 2014, there were all these background discussions going on across different local groups and emissaries on behalf of the core group in Iraq and Syria. They were traveling and reaching out to different groups that already existed in Afghanistan and Pakistan to see about exactly that — to see about establishing a local affiliate, an official beachhead for ISIS in Afghanistan and Pakistan. ISIS looks at that as the crux of its broader jihad in Central and South Asia. It really sees it as a beachhead to launch attacks and pursue the vision of the global caliphate.
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</p>
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<h4 id="atWeSk">
|
||
Jen Kirby
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||
</h4>
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="22SJJm">
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Does ISIS-K operate independently? Or do they report to — or have their activities coordinated by — ISIS in Iraq and Syria?
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||
</p>
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<h4 id="aBgz4C">
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Andrew Mines
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It’s kind of a mixed bag. The leader of the group, the governor of the wilayat [the province, in this case Khorasan] is nominated by others in his organization and then approved and appointed by the <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/27/world/middleeast/al-baghdadi-dead.html">caliph</a> and his delegating committee in Iraq and Syria. That nomination process means the group in Iraq and Syria, in theory, has control over the group in Afghanistan. But when it comes to the operational components, they’re pretty displaced from the day-to-day. There are core operators in Afghanistan — previously in Pakistan, not just Afghanistan — that are trying to figure out how to launch attacks and all this stuff by themselves.
|
||
</p>
|
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="Ydpgcb">
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At the strategic level, ISIS-K aims to implement much of the same the group in Iraq and Syria does. It pursues sectarian attacks against groups like the <a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2016/6/27/afghanistan-who-are-the-hazaras">Hazaras</a> [a predominately Shia ethnic group in Afghanistan] and <a href="https://apnews.com/article/afghanistan-discrimination-islamic-state-group-
|
||
kabul-archive-b310aecece22454cc5918756e245810c">Sikhs</a>. It seeks to consolidate territorial control. In fact, that’s one of the qualifications that a group needs to hit to be acknowledged by the core group in Iraq and Syria — what it calls “territorial consolidation.” Once that happened, they were like, “Okay, check, you can be a province now.”
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||
</p>
|
||
<div class="c-float-right c-float-hang">
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||
<aside id="p4EKc2">
|
||
<q>“ISIS-K has ambitions beyond this evacuation timeline. We need to treat them with the seriousness of their ambitions.”</q>
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</aside>
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<h4 id="uf88U2">
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Jen Kirby
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You qualify, basically.
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<h4 id="5fMK1E">
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Andrew Mines
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You qualify, right? There are a few others on that list, but that’s one of the big ones.
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="Ye6953">
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The other biggest one is coming forward with a leader that can be appointed by the delegating committee. It looks different in Somalia, it looks different in Yemen, it looks different in Afghanistan, but whichever groups or sets of individuals are coming together need to nominate a leader that the core leadership can vet first and then appoint.
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</p>
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<h4 id="lEGekL">
|
||
Jen Kirby
|
||
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="l3LUF2">
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This is probably not the best example for a terrorist organization, but it almost sounds like franchising? You have an ISIS branch in Afghanistan and then you have the corporate headquarters in Iraq and Syria.
|
||
</p>
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<h4 id="kcVlX7">
|
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Andrew Mines
|
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I mean, that’s exactly it. One of my colleagues calls it the “<a href="https://www.hudson.org/research/16798-the-routinization-of-the-islamic-state-s-global-
|
||
enterprise">routinization</a>” of the Islamic State movement.
|
||
</p>
|
||
<h4 id="vdqMU2">
|
||
Jen Kirby
|
||
</h4>
|
||
<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="kkzTuJ">
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So who is in charge of ISIS-K right now?
|
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Andrew Mines
|
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There’s a great article by one of our colleagues, <a href="https://www.lawfareblog.com/who-new-leader-islamic-state-khorasan-province">Abdul Sayed, in Lawfare</a> that addresses this issue. Right now, it’s a man by the name of Shahab al-Muhajir. He’s <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/25/us/politics/isis-terrorism-afghanistan-taliban.html">believed to be</a> a former and experienced <a href="https://www.dni.gov/nctc/groups/haqqani_network.html">Haqqani network</a> [an Islamist militant group affiliated with the Taliban] operative. He has a lot of experience with the makings of a terrorist organization, when it goes from a low-level insurgency, and it’s trying to pursue re-expansion. He’s a bit of an urban warfare expert.
|
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</p>
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="juXeZI">
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He’s also reportedly appointed as <a href="https://www.lawfareblog.com/who-new-
|
||
leader-islamic-state-khorasan-province">the first non-Afghan or non-Pakistani national to head the group</a>. That’s pretty significant, to be headed by a non-Afghan, or non-Pakistani, or non-Pashtun is a pretty big deal. He’s tasked with overseeing the group through this period of relative decline and relative uncertainty.
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</p>
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<h4 id="yiddDm">
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Jen Kirby
|
||
</h4>
|
||
<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="w1q6rW">
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What is Shahab al-Muhajir’s background?
|
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</p>
|
||
<h4 id="fZ9tI2">
|
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Andrew Mines
|
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|
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="4i49K9">
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Other ISIS-K leaders were super well-known, and through ISIS’s own propaganda, they did these backgrounds on the first governor [<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/12/isis-leader-pakistan-afghanistan-hafiz-
|
||
saeed-khan-killed">Hafiz Saeed Khan</a>]. They did this whole interview in ISIS’s main magazine with him.
|
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</p>
|
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="ICbTkl">
|
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This newest governor [Shahab al-Muhajir] was shrouded in a little bit of uncertainty. It took him a while to issue his first statement. There was confusion about whether they were trying to hide his accent because he’s not Afghani, not Pakistani. So there’s a lot of mystery when he was first announced as governor.
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</p>
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<h4 id="Iy0h3p">
|
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Jen Kirby
|
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|
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="D7LqmB">
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And Shahab al-Muhajir has been governor since when?
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Andrew Mines
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Since 2020.
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|
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Jen Kirby
|
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|
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="lHtAhF">
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Okay, so he’s fairly new to the job then. But who exactly makes up ISIS-K’s ranks?
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</p>
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Andrew Mines
|
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ISIS-K starts in 2015 — and, obviously, those discussions [about its formation] were going on in the background in 2014. This was a time when there’s a little bit of disgruntlement with the Taliban as a movement — especially once news got out that [Taliban founder and leader] <a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-last-days-of-taliban-head-mullah-omar-11552226401">Mullah Omar was dead and had been dead for some time</a>.
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="tOReI2">
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ISIS, as an entity, <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28082962">had just established the global caliphate</a>, and that was a huge messaging boost. The Taliban, as an entity, their aspiration is for a government focused only on Afghanistan, within the boundaries of Afghanistan. When these guys get in fights with each other and when they diss each other in their propaganda and their narrative messaging in how they recruit people, that’s how ISIS-K brands the Taliban. They brand them as “filthy nationalists.”
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</p>
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<h4 id="Ldp9Nj">
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Jen Kirby
|
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="xp7Kj2">
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It’s like ISIS was the cool, new, hip group in town. The Taliban has been around for a while; it’s kind of fusty, and so ISIS-K was trying to capitalize on their success in Iraq and Syria to recruit in Afghanistan.
|
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Andrew Mines
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="Amu9qU">
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Definitely. We’ve got founding members from the Pakistani Taliban. We’ve got founding members from the Afghan Taliban. We’ve got members from the <a href="https://cisac.fsi.stanford.edu/mappingmilitants/profiles/islamic-
|
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movement-uzbekistan">Islamic movement of Uzbekistan</a>, and then over time, a bunch of other groups start to join them.
|
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="z0DSGY">
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But what kind of happens in these first few months and, then over time, is that the Taliban catch on to this really quickly, and they start to clamp down on all of their commanders and anybody who’s thinking about joining ISIS-K.
|
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</p>
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="Le9HG6">
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Really, 2015, was a pretty crazy year that saw, across Afghanistan, in different provinces, major Taliban commanders switching flags and joining ISIS-K. This is a huge pivotal moment because the Taliban realizes if the dominoes start to fall, ISIS-K becomes the preeminent jihadist organization in the country.
|
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</p>
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I do want to talk more about the relationship with the Taliban, but when we talk about ISIS-K 2021, how big is it?
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Andrew Mines
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Starting in 2016 to 2018 is when the coalition really hammers down on ISIS-K. That piggybacks off the Taliban routing ISIS-K in different places. Sometimes they coincide. Sometimes it’s just the Taliban; sometimes it’s just the coalition.
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In one sense or another, by 2019, the group is pretty decimated — <a href="https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-
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pacific/over-1-400-daesh-affiliates-surrender-in-afghanistan/1666062">at the end of 2019, over 1,400 fighters and their families surrendered to government forces in northeast Afghanistan</a>. This is really where we start to see this messaging, especially by the Afghan government, that ISIS is defeated in the country, and that there’s no more ISIS here. That’s when we really see ISIS-K go back to this survival mode, like low-level insurgency.
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At that point, a lot of ISIS-K’s recruitment messaging is starting to localize. Historically, a lot of its rank-and-file members have come from across the border in Pakistan. More recently, there’s other good evidence <a href="https://www.usip.org/publications/2020/06/bourgeois-jihad-why-young-middle-class-afghans-join-islamic-state">of recruitment of young urban Afghans who have become disillusioned with the peace process</a> and just don’t think it’s going anywhere. So ISIS-K is really kind of a mix of the core hardened guys, who managed to survive the onslaught of coalition targeting, and then newer recruits, and then attack operation cells spread throughout different Afghan cities.
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<figure class="e-image">
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<img alt=" " src="https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/OkZil-4SfaCvCVrB3wE-
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zFGkYxg=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/22810168/GettyImages_1234889373_copy.jpg"/> <cite>Wakil Kohsar/AFP via Getty Images</cite>
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A Taliban fighter stands guard at the site of the August 26 twin suicide bombs.
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Jen Kirby
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I do remember in 2017 when the <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/13/world/asia/moab-mother-of-all-bombs-afghanistan.html">US dropped the “mother of all bombs”</a> on ISIS caves in Afghanistan, which stands out as the big example, in my mind, of that US-led campaign.
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Andrew Mines
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It was a big bomb. The purpose of it was to clear <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/13/world/asia/moab-mother-of-all-bombs-afghanistan.html">this cave tunnel complex</a> to allow forces to get into a valley where they had been set up, basically, since their inception in 2015. But it’s also a messaging thing in its own right, which is, “this is what happens, and so be prepared, because we’re going to use this kind of ordnance on you guys.”
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Jen Kirby
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Let’s talk about this strategic rivalry. Why are ISIS-K and the Taliban enemies?
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Andrew Mines
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The biggest one is over the distinction between emirate and caliphate. This goes all the way back to 2015. There were actually talks between senior leadership in the Taliban and [ISIS leader Abu Bakr]<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/27/world/middleeast/al-baghdadi-dead.html"> al-Baghdadi</a> himself and his delegating committee. [The Taliban is] basically like, “why are you instructing these guys to do this? Call your guys off.” And Baghdadi is like, “Well, recognize me as caliph and then we’ll be good, right?” So that beef goes back a long time. But the crux of it is really about emirate or caliphate — global movement or national confines.
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Jen Kirby
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The emirate is Taliban-style and caliphate is ISIS-style?
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Andrew Mines
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Yes, exactly.
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Jen Kirby
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Okay, and during this past five-plus years, the United States was bombing ISIS-K targets, and the Taliban and ISIS-K were also fighting on the ground.
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Andrew Mines
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Yes, extensively.
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Jen Kirby
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And what are the dynamics of that fighting between the Taliban and ISIS-K?
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Andrew Mines
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The dynamics of that took a bunch of forms. It was really a bit more positional fighting, so the Taliban attacked ISIS-K positions. That went all the way down to skirmishes in the outskirts of districts and in rural areas, to targeted attacks against individual units and individual fighters.
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="A3ppJj">
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But the majority of ISIS-K attack campaigns, in late 2020 and throughout this year, have been focused on some of the same stuff that we saw in Iraq and Syria, which is called a <a href="https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/timeline-the-rise-spread-and-fall-the-islamic-state">harvesting campaign</a> — which is a horrible name — but that’s how they view it.
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ISIS-K goes after journalists, they go after aid workers, they go after intelligence and security personnel that they can identify. They go after government facilities and government targets and anything they can do to prove that the governing power is not able to provide security to anybody, and to sow confusion and chaos.
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<aside id="XjtsBS">
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<q>“But the crux of it is really about emirate or caliphate — global movement or national confines”</q>
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Jen Kirby
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The US and the Taliban both don’t want ISIS-K in Afghanistan. I’m wondering if there was any coordination or collaboration on ISIS targets during the war at all? Or do we just not know that information?
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Andrew Mines
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It’s actually a really difficult question. Wesley Morgan is really the guy on this one. He wrote <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/10/22/taliban-isis-drones-afghanistan/">this piece in the Washington Post</a> about how there was unofficial coordination. It wasn’t cooperation, per se, but it’s basically, “we’re about to hit ISIS-K here, just so you know.”
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It falls very far short of strategic cooperation between the Afghan Taliban and the US armed forces and Afghan forces to root out ISIS. But it’s in both of their interests, and when made sense, it seems like there was kind of unofficial cooperation.
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Jen Kirby
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Now <a href="https://www.vox.com/22618215/afghanistan-news-taliban-advance">we just saw the Taliban go on this rout through Afghanistan</a>. What has ISIS-K been up to in the last few months as this was unfolding?
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Andrew Mines
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If you look at ISIS-K attack numbers, in terms of their operational tempo, it was a lot lower than 2020 and early 2021. A lot of people interpret that as they’re either lying low to see what happens, or they’re pooling their resources and just biding their time for what we saw at the Kabul airport on Thursday.
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="53x82S">
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The question becomes: What is their interest in conducting <a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/08/27/1031649747/kabul-airport-explosions-afghanistan-dead-evacuations">an attack like we saw Thursday</a>?
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Jen Kirby
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And so what is their interest in conducting that attack we saw?
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Andrew Mines
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The first is simply just do the same thing that’s coming out of the Iraq and Syria textbook, which is to sow chaos and confusion and create those conditions that insurgent groups like these try to fill.
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The second is to encourage and, in their view, hopefully facilitate an increased US and international footprint, which would be reneging on the withdrawal process.
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If ISIS-K can force that, it makes the Taliban both look like collaborators with the West — which is really good for ISIS-K messaging — but also like failed collaborators, right? “You can’t even provide security, you’re incapable of ruling this nation, we [ISIS] are the viable alternative.” It is almost certainly to discredit the Taliban and their ability to hold power and deliver security.
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</p>
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<h4 id="nSxStt">
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Jen Kirby
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="FWP2QD">
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What does the attack say about the relative power of ISIS-K? I’m trying to understand if this was its coming-out party to say, “we’re back!” Or is the group still relatively weakened by years of US bombings and Taliban fighting? Or do we just not really know the answer to that question at this point?
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Andrew Mines
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It’s certainly been weakened in 2019 and 2020. That’s why we see them really pursue these kinds of attack campaigns.
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="GM2nqU">
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At the same time, some of the more credible estimates of the group’s force size show them gradually increasing; they are trying to continue recruiting, trying to reconsolidate some semblance of territory. Their attack cells are also carrying out these really vicious campaigns throughout last year and this year and so they maintain that capability.
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Jen Kirby
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President Joe Biden <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/26/world/biden-afghanistan-kabul-airport-attack.html">said Thursday that the US would retaliate for the attacks</a>. But putting aside the US withdrawal for a moment, is ISIS-K a big threat to the Taliban and the Taliban’s ability to govern Afghanistan?
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</p>
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Andrew Mines
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Yes, yes. The short answer is yes.
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Jen Kirby
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Okay! How so?
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Andrew Mines
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We look at three things. The first is, again, that message, it has the playbook of the group from Iraq and Syria, which was effective. We saw that in 2011, and onwards.
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It has the personnel and the core membership necessary to stay relevant but also to expand and go through this period of, “okay, this is the low point.”
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The third part is the conditions. It really is early days, and I’m not one to really speculate. But when<strong> </strong>Amira and I looked at the kind of fatalities, and then casualties occurring to ISIS-K, over time, the vast majority of them are coming from the US-led coalition, Afghan airpower, and ground operations. The Afghan Taliban is routing ISIS in areas, sometimes by itself, but when we look at how ISIS-K suffered over time, a lot of that’s been at the hand of US forces, alongside Afghan partners, and especially US airpower. Without that, I don’t know what that’s going to look like. Biden’s into an “<a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/05/17/997494815/the-u-s-looks-to-support-the-afghan-military-from-over-the-horizon">over the horizon</a>” posture. But it is just early days, so we don’t know what that’s going to look like yet.
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Jen Kirby
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="i0sefV">
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As you’re saying this, I’m having flashbacks to Iraq a little bit. I know you don’t want to make predictions, but it does seem like there’s the possibility of history repeating itself?
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Andrew Mines
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="4WU3hd">
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It’s sad, and you hate to see these kinds of things play out, and obviously, there are different dynamics — there’s no Taliban equivalent in Iraq, of course. But those predictions so far look like they’re on track.
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="2kiMqe">
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Again, it’s early days, and we’ll see, and I know the US’s primary mission is getting people who have helped us and our people out of there. But ISIS-K has ambitions beyond this evacuation timeline. We need to treat them with the seriousness of their ambitions.
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<pre><code> <img alt=" " src="https://cdn.vox-</code></pre>
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom">cdn.com/thumbor/NUQbXTp2SyemEGze7aFnCFBYlN0=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox- cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/22810180/AP21239344419672_copy.jpg" /> <cite>Wali Sabawoon/AP</cite></p>
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A woman tries to identify a body at a hospital in Kabul on August 27.
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Jen Kirby
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="Tl9udh">
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Okay, so I know it’s early days, but what are you watching for in regards to ISIS-K?
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Andrew Mines
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That depends on what the US does next. It really does. But if we stick to where we’re at, and we don’t put too many more assets on the ground, more or less we’re out of there in a real meaningful sense, very, very rapidly, as in within the next week or two. My safe bet is that you just replace the Afghan government as a target with the Taliban as a target.
|
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If the Taliban is now going to be the guarantor of security in the country, who does ISIS-K need to attack to make sure that they are seen as the viable alternative to some power that can’t provide security to the people? That’s going to be the Afghan Taliban.
|
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="eQPItn">
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At the same time, they will still need to stick to their brand messaging, so: targeting minorities, check. Targeting government infrastructure and government personnel, and in this case, it will be Taliban-run and Taliban personnel, check. Targeting civilian spaces to create that panic and chaos and confusion to show that the Taliban can’t protect, check. That’ll be the playbook.
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</p>
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<h4 id="1xePhe">
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Jen Kirby
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="NkwBuE">
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So what does corporate headquarters think about all this? Where does Afghanistan fit in terms of ISIS’s larger dynamics?
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Andrew Mines
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="UJpAks">
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Afghanistan, from the start, was really important to this group — the greater region, Khorasan, has this huge lore in Middle East history, and I won’t bother you with the boring details of that.
|
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</p>
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="TFYnQJ">
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But it’s always had this lore for them. And the legacy of [al Qaeda’s No. 2, Abu Musab al-] <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2006/07/the-short-violent-life-of-abu-musab-al-
|
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zarqawi/304983/">Zarqawi</a> and the legacy of bin Laden is there. They try to seize that legacy. They try to seize that mantle. “We are the jihadist group; there’s no alternative. Al Qaeda, they failed; they are not the true inheritance of Zarqawi and Bin Laden’s legacy, we are.” And so Afghanistan has always been important to them.
|
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</p>
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom" id="NnzPpe">
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From ISIS’s perspective, it’s really about how you allocate resources. <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/25/isis-linked-groups-open-up-new-fronts-across-sub-saharan-
|
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africa">Especially as Africa has become just as huge</a>, the movement starts to dedicate a lot of resources. The same thing we saw with Afghanistan — share money a little bit, but also trainers, advisers. And so there’s a clear precedent and clear historical interest for them to send advisors, to send assets and money that they can get into Afghanistan to make sure that ISIS-K has what it needs to pursue this next chapter.
|
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<li data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>Farmers in Punjab block roads, burn effigies over lathicharge on Haryana peasants</strong> - Owing allegiance to various farmer bodies, the protesters burnt the effigies of the BJP-led government in Haryana for using “force” on farmers in Karnal where around 10 people were injured.</p></li>
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<li data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>Suspension of scheduled international passenger flights extended till September 30</strong> - Scheduled international passenger flights have been suspended in India since March 23, 2020 due to the coronavirus pandemic</p></li>
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<li data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>Austrian ex-far-right leader Strache guilty of corruption</strong> - The verdict comes two years after a video sting ended Heinz-Christian Strache’s political career.</p></li>
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<li data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>French woman arrested over jewellery thefts from coffins</strong> - Police believe the woman was posing as a mourner to strip valuables from the recently deceased.</p></li>
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<li data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>French presidency: Michel Barnier joins race ‘to change France’</strong> - The former EU Brexit negotiator says he will take on Emmanuel Macron in the elections next spring.</p></li>
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<li data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>Afghans in Calais prepare to risk lives again to reach UK</strong> - Aid agencies on the French coast are preparing for a new influx of migrants trying to get to the UK.</p></li>
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<li><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>A bad solar storm could cause an “Internet apocalypse”</strong> - Undersea cables would be hit especially hard by a coronal mass ejection. - <a href="https://arstechnica.com/?p=1790321">link</a></p></li>
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<li><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>Myst remake impressions: Handsome island touch-ups, launch-week woes</strong> - Tastefully done, fun in VR, but we hope noted issues are rendered moot before long. - <a href="https://arstechnica.com/?p=1790309">link</a></p></li>
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<li><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>The weekend’s best deals: Samsung microSD cards, gaming chairs, and more</strong> - Dealmaster also has webcams, MagSafe chargers, and AMD Ryzen processors. - <a href="https://arstechnica.com/?p=1788833">link</a></p></li>
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<li><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>Vaccine mandates work, especially when they’re done right</strong> - Requirements always have to be achievable and equitable. - <a href="https://arstechnica.com/?p=1790329">link</a></p></li>
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<li><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>Samurai-themed sci-fi flick It’s A Summer Film! expertly slices expectations</strong> - Stream this samurai-loving genre mashup when you can. Speaking of: ATTENTION US DISTRIBUTORS. - <a href="https://arstechnica.com/?p=1789926">link</a></p></li>
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<li><strong>Can we ban the “yo momma” jokes from this sub? They’re old, stupid and have been used by everyone hundreds of times.</strong> - <!-- SC_OFF -->
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Just like yo momma.
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<li><strong>The only cow in a small town in USA stopped giving milk. The people did some research and found that they could buy a cow from BC Canada for 1,000 dollars, or one from Alberta Canada for 800 dollars. Being poor, they bought the cow from Alberta. The cow was wonderful.</strong> - <!-- SC_OFF -->
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It produced lots of milk all the time, and the people were amazed and very happy. They decided to acquire a bull to mate with the cow and produce more cows like it. Then they would never have to worry about the milk supply again.
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They bought a bull and put it in the pasture with their beloved cow. However, whenever the bull came close to the cow, the cow would move away. No matter what approach the bull tried, the cow would move away from the bull and he could not succeed in his quest. The people were very upset and decided to ask the rabbi, who was very wise, what to do.
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They told the rabbi what was happening; “Whenever the bull approaches our cow, she moves away. If he approaches from the back, she moves forward. When he approaches her from the front, she backs off. An approach from the side and she just walks away to the other side.” The rabbi thought about this for a minute and asked, “Did you buy this cow from Alberta?” The people were dumbfounded. They had never mentioned where they had gotten the cow. “You are truly a wise rabbi. How did you know we got the cow from Alberta?”
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The rabbi answered sadly, “My wife is from Alberta.”
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<p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"> submitted by <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/cok3noic3"> /u/cok3noic3 </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/pdnwq7/yo_momma_is_so_ugly/">[link]</a></span> <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/pdnwq7/yo_momma_is_so_ugly/">[comments]</a></span></p></li>
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His father replies “well son, can your dick touch your ass?”
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The boy seems puzzled and replies with a simple “no?” and his father explains they’re his and the boy can’t have any then.
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A few days later the son walks in on his father with a big bag of marshmallows, and boy does the kid love marshmallows! So he asks his dad if he could please have some, they’re his favorite after all, and his dad replies with the same response as before, “can your dick touch your ass?”. The son thinks about the question and hesitates before he sadly replies “no” again and walks away with his head down
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The boy comes home from school one day to find his grandmother had left some of her homemade cookies for the family and he digs right in.
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Just then, the boys father comes home from work and sees his son and the cookies at the kitchen table. The father is so excited because he already knows it’s his mom’s cookies and they’re his favorite.
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The father pulls up a chair and asks his son for a cookie. The son looks at him with innocent eyes and says “can your dick touch your ass?”. The father smirks and replies “of course my son”, and before the father could say another word the boy shouts “well go fuck yourself because these are my cookies!”
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“Private Doe!” “Sir! Yes, sir?” “What is this camel doing here at our base?” Asks the Major “Sir, the camel is here sir for when the urges of the troops need to be fulfilled sir!”
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Understanding the situation, the Major told him to carry on. . . . Months have passed with no woman in sight. The Major was having urges that he couldn’t control anymore. So one day, he calls the private.
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“Private Doe!” “Sir! Yes sir?” “Bring the camel to my tent!” “Sir, yes sir!”
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“Private, isn’t that how it’s done?”
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