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<h1 data-aos="fade-down" id="daily-dose">Daily-Dose</h1>
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<h1 data-aos="fade-right" data-aos-anchor-placement="top-bottom" id="contents">Contents</h1>
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<li><a href="#from-new-yorker">From New Yorker</a></li>
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<li><a href="#from-vox">From Vox</a></li>
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<li><a href="#from-the-hindu-sports">From The Hindu: Sports</a></li>
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<li><a href="#from-the-hindu-national-news">From The Hindu: National News</a></li>
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<li><a href="#from-bbc-europe">From BBC: Europe</a></li>
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<li><a href="#from-ars-technica">From Ars Technica</a></li>
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<li><a href="#from-jokes-subreddit">From Jokes Subreddit</a></li>
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<h1 data-aos="fade-right" id="from-new-yorker">From New Yorker</h1>
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<li><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>An “Academic Transformation” Takes On the Math Department</strong> - A series of cuts at West Virginia University has largely affected the humanities, but any program that is not seen as marketable may get the axe. - <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/us-journal/an-academic-transformation-takes-on-the-math-department">link</a></p></li>
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<li><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>The Dead Children We Must See</strong> - It’s time for Americans to rethink their squeamishness about releasing the photos of the youngest victims of mass violence. - <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-dead-children-we-must-see">link</a></p></li>
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<li><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>What Would a Lasting Peace Between Israel and Palestine Really Look Like?</strong> - The need for a new paradigm after October 7th. - <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/what-would-a-lasting-peace-between-israel-and-palestine-really-look-like">link</a></p></li>
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<li><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>When Your Own Book Gets Caught Up in the Censorship Wars</strong> - I had envisioned book bans as modern morality plays—but the reality was far more complicated. - <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/essay/when-your-own-book-gets-caught-up-in-the-censorship-wars">link</a></p></li>
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<li><p data-aos="fade-left" data-aos-anchor-placement="bottom-bottom"><strong>The Death of a Relic Hunter</strong> - Bill Erquitt was an unforgettable character among Georgia’s many Civil War enthusiasts. After he died, his secrets came to light. - <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-the-south/the-death-of-a-relic-hunter">link</a></p></li>
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<li><strong>The truth about Napoleon and Josephine’s marriage, divorce, and lasting legacy</strong> -
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Napoleon Bonaparte (Joaquin Phoenix) crowns his wife Josephine (Vanessa Kirby) Empress of France. | Columbia Pictures
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The Bonaparte marriage, not quite explained by Ridley Scott’s new movie.
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What viewers might want or expect from Ridley Scott’s <em>Napoleon</em> — epic scenes of war, sexily torn bodices, and a very short emperor — won’t be exactly what they get. The battle scenes drag on, the ruler is shown to be a truly appalling lover — neighing as foreplay and thrusting like a hammer — and Joaquin Phoenix is a perfectly reasonable 5-foot-8. What they will get, however, besides a difficult-to-place tone and the sight of a horse exploding from cannon fire, is a whole lot of Napoleon’s (Phoenix) relationship with Josephine (Vanessa Kirby), his wife of 14 years and the empress of France. The movie goes deep into their love story: his letters, her affairs, his affairs, and ultimately their very strange divorce ceremony, necessary because Josephine — six years older than Napoleon — couldn’t give the upstart emperor an heir.
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In the film, the ceremony is attended by luminaries and family, and stresses the couple’s love for each other even through the dissolution of their <a href="https://www.vox.com/unions">union</a>. “You have embellished my life for 15 years, the memories of which have been etched in my heart,” Napoleon reads during his speech. Josephine tries to get through her similarly loving speech and the insistence that they’re doing this for the good of France, but she struggles and Napoleon shakes and slaps her, telling her to do it for her country. Bizarre, to say the least. It leaves viewers wondering how much of this relationship — and its undoing — is fact and how much is fiction.
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But before we dive into that divorce ceremony and whether it really went down like that — and why — a little background on the world’s favorite little man in a funny hat.
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Napoleon didn’t start off as royalty, but rather as a French army officer from a minor Italian noble family from Corsica. But he was a voracious reader and brilliant military strategist, which caused him to rise further in the ranks. Louis Sarkozy, son of former French President Nicholas Sarkozy and author of the upcoming book <a href="https://www.pen-and-sword.co.uk/Napoleons-Library-Hardback/p/49300"><em>Napoleon’s Library: The Emperor, His Books and Their Influence on the Napoleonic Era</em></a>, says that Napoleon was “an amazing, multifaceted character.”
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After the infamous French Revolution that deposed (to put it gently) King Louis XVI and his wife, Marie Antoinette, via guillotine, Napoleon’s power and influence grew with his military and political victories, eventually leading him to stage a coup and become first consul of the French Republic in 1799<strong> </strong>— alongside two other consuls, Emmanuel-Joseph Sieyès and Pierre-Roger Ducos, who were mere figureheads —<strong> </strong>before declaring himself Emperor of France in 1804. <a href="https://ksh.roma.it/romanticism/1804">Legend</a> (and the movie) says he snatched the crown from Pope Pius VII and crowned himself, an unheard-of act that demonstrated a lack of respect for the Church. (Perhaps this was the error he sought to correct by handling his divorce very — some might say too — respectfully.)
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Napoleon in Egypt, thinking about his wife cheating on him.
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As a member of the aristocracy that France had turned on — Josephine was once imprisoned in the Bastille, as the movie shows — Napoleon’s choice of wife was beneficial for him politically. <a href="https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/arts/modernlanguages/academic/ka/">Katherine Astbury</a>, professor of French studies at the University of Warwick, tells Vox that “Josephine was an important part of Napoleon’s policy to reconcile those who had been on opposing sides during the Revolution. Her position in society enabled her to smooth over political differences. As wife of the first consul and then empress, her role was to enhance the glory of the regime.” Josephine was a dazzling host and diplomat, presenting France as a prosperous and sophisticated nation during a time when many were wondering if the recent executions meant it had turned barbaric. In fact, Astbury says, Josephine spent far more on clothing than Marie Antoinette, famously reviled for her extravagance.
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And during his reign, Napoleon did a lot. “He invented the <a href="https://www.napoleon-series.org/military-info/organization/c_armycorps.html">[Corps d’Armée]</a> system, a way to move armies in the field, which was absolutely revolutionary,” Sarkozy tells Vox. “It’s why he won so many battles in the beginning. It was virtually copied by everybody. His Egyptian expedition pretty much created modern archeology, and his discovery of the Rosetta Stone led to the deciphering of the hieroglyphs.” Sarkozy goes so far as to call him a “sublime genius,” albeit one “full of faults.”
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One of those faults, it is necessary to point out, is him reinstating slavery in Haiti after it had been abolished. This is one of the many reasons historians, like University of Virginia African Diaspora Studies professor <a href="https://dh.library.virginia.edu/people/prof-marlene-l-daut">Marlene L. Daut</a>, caution us against <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/18/opinion/france-year-of-napoleon.html">making a hero of Napoleon</a>. “Napoleon Bonaparte theoretically embraced this notion of revolution and breaking the chains of human beings everywhere. But he reinstated slavery in Haiti after it had been abolished in 1802, so he seemed to believe that actually that should only be the case for white people,” says <a href="https://history.case.edu/faculty/gillian-weiss/">Gillian Weiss</a>, professor of history at Case Western University and author of <a href="http://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=17698"><em>Captives and Corsairs: France and Slavery in the Early Modern Mediterranean</em></a>.
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Josephine was born to a noble family in Martinique, a Caribbean country and French colony. The movie shows Josephine having a Caribbean multiracial maid but doesn’t explore her family’s connection to slavery: They owned a sugar plantation. In 2020, antiracism protesters in Martinique tore down a statue of the former empress that had been commissioned by Bonaparte’s nephew Napoléon III in 1859. The statue of Josephine had also been decapitated in 1991, so safe to say Black Caribbeans are no big fans of the Bonapartes. Josephine is a complicated character in the film as well, although not for her family’s economic interest in oppressing people: She’s shown — accurately — to have had affairs that became the talk of France and a feature of the newspapers. Surprisingly, this wasn’t what led to the divorce, which Astbury points out was actually an annulment.
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Like any conqueror, Napoleon needed an heir. However, because Napoleon was self-crowned and self-made, having children was arguably even more crucial to his reign. Sarkozy tells Vox that Napoleon’s urge to secure his reign was the primary reason for the divorce. “He used to always say that the <a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/house-of-Bourbon">Bourbons</a>, the French kings who were before him, that they had a thousand years to build their legitimacy. He did not have a thousand years. He barely had 10. He wanted to cement his dynasty. So, how do you do that? You have a son. And unfortunately, Josephine was unable to produce a son.”
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<q>“He wanted to cement his dynasty. So, how do you do that? You have a son. And unfortunately, Josephine was unable to produce a son.” </q>
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As much as he loved Josephine, being six years older than him, she was unable to have any more children — she had two with her first husband, the Vicomte de Beauharnais, but none with Napoleon. In the movie, Napoleon’s overbearing mother forces him to have sex with an 18-year-old girl to see if he can get her pregnant, determining if the lack of pregnancy was Jospehine’s or Napoleon’s fault. In real life, cheating on Josephine wasn’t as unpleasant or forced a task. “I think we count throughout his life about 22 to 24 mistresses, including two or three illegitimate children,” says Sarkozy.
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But children born outside of marriage can’t inherit the throne. The movie even shows Napoleon considering pawning off one of his other kids as Josephine’s child. But ultimately, the political mastermind knows he must have an heir from his marriage to protect his legacy. So he pushes on with the annulment and the ceremony: public display, speeches, and all. He then went on to marry the sister of the Austrian archduke, Marie Louise, duchess of Parma, making her the new empress of France.
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“Legislation was introduced in 1806 to strengthen the idea of a hereditary empire, and one of the clauses said that members of the imperial family could not divorce,” says Astbury. “It took a lot of maneuvering for Napoleon to get out of his marriage to Josephine in order to have an heir.” She points to an 1807 police report that gives an indication of how people felt at the time, with some at court saying that the empress is an asset to the empire, while others feel that the need for an heir overrides other concerns.
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It was out of this mixture of his love for Josephine and the importance of making sure he didn’t appear to discard her that the divorce ceremony was conceived. Astbury says the ceremony was “politically useful … Josephine shows that she is doing this of her own free will. The speech she gives has been carefully prepared in conjunction with Napoleon so that Josephine is not humiliated by her inability to bear him an heir.” In real life, Josephine’s speech <a href="https://www.napoleon.org/en/history-of-the-two-empires/timelines/napoleons-divorce/">read</a>: “I know how much this act, called for by politics and greater interests, has pained [Napoleon’s] heart; but glorious is the sacrifice that he and I make for the good of our nation.” To prevent her from even more humiliation, Josephine had the title of empress dowager after the divorce, got to keep their residence Malmaison, and received a hefty allowance. In real life and in the movie, Josephine seems to accept this halfway position she has in Napoleon’s life — not a wife but not quite an ex either. “One day you will know what I have sacrificed for you,” she whispers to Napoleon’s son, Napoleon François Charles Joseph, when he introduces her to him.
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But divorcing Josephine was arguably useless, mostly because the alliance with Austria was a failure. “It was a mistake because Austria’s conflicts with France were irreconcilable,” says Sarkozy. “The two areas where Austria wanted to extend its influence were the same areas France wanted to extend its influence, northern Italy and Germany. So even though he married the daughter of the archduke, a couple years later, he was already back at war with them.”
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Like many historians and Napoleon’s advisers of the day, Sarkozy thinks <a href="https://www.vox.com/russia">Russia</a> would have been the superior choice of ally; he should have married the Tsar’s sister instead, as he is shown in the film requesting. “Had Russia been chosen and seduced by France and had the continental blockade not been imposed, I think it would’ve worked out a lot better,” Sarkozy says. “Although I’m speaking with the benefit of hindsight. Who knows what decisions I would’ve made were I present in 1810?”
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Vanessa Kirby, who plays Josephine in <em>Napoleon</em>, is 35 to Joaquin Phoenix’s 49.
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As for preserving his dynasty, well, it’s complicated. While he had a son with Marie Louise, Napoleon’s reign ended after he lost in Russia and went into exile on the island of Elba, then reclaimed his power and lost again at Waterloo, going into exile for good this time on St. Helena, a small island in the middle of the Atlantic, 1,200 miles from the coast of southwestern Africa — France really wanted him out of there. His son, Napoleon François Charles Joseph, had a short and disputed reign as Napoleon II for only <a href="https://www.napoleon.org/en/history-of-the-two-empires/biographies/napoleon-ii/">20 days </a>, eventually being succeeded — with a king in between — by his cousin Napoleon III. (Napoleon III was, ironically, the son of Josephine’s only daughter, Hortense, and Bonaparte’s brother Louis.) After the third and final Napoleon, France went back to being a Republic with a proper president, and the short but memorable Bonaparte dynasty was effectively over.
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Who do we blame for the fall of the empire and Napoleon? Could it be that maybe the “greatest general of all time” wasn’t really all that? Were they unavoidable military and political miscalculations? Or did the empire die the day of that divorce ceremony?
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The movie plays with the idea that Napoleon’s fall was due to him divorcing Josephine. When the then-general first hears of the affair Josephine carried on while he was in Egypt, he comes to her and tells her to say she is nothing without him. Tearfully, she agrees, but later that same night, turns it back on him. “You want to be great. You are nothing without me. Say it. You are just a brute that is nothing without me,” Kirby’s Josephine tells Phoenix’s Napoleon, and he says it back. After she dies and he is in exile, he hears her voice from the dead saying, “I let you loose and let you come to ruin, next time I will be emperor and you will do as I say.”
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However, Sarkozy refutes the idea that the divorce led to Napoleon’s ruin.
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“That’s absolutely bogus,” Sarkozy says. “I know Ridley Scott focuses a lot on their love relationship, and there’s a good reason because, listen, it’s an awesome story. I mean, his letters to her are amazing. But the idea that the fault of the empire is reducible to him divorcing Josephine is complete nonsense. The empire fell because of crucial military and political decisions. It did not fall because of his personal life.” Astbury also says that Josephine didn’t have much influence over Napoleon politically.
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However, Astbury says that the desire for a son and the fulfillment of that desire may have made Napoleon more autocratic and imperialist, which ultimately did lead the empire to fall. “Most historians agree that the Empire was at its height in 1807 and things deteriorated after that as Napoleon became more and more autocratic. The desire to leave France in safe hands became a growing concern (he didn’t feel his brother Joseph was the right man for the job) and intensified after his son was born in 1811,” says Astbury.
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<q>“The birth of an heir accelerated the fall of the Empire, but I think the Allies would have decided to act sooner rather than later anyway” </q>
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Hyperfocusing on his legacy made Napoleon reach further and further across Europe to expand his empire, which Astbury says made Britain, Austria, Prussia [now called Germany], and Russia “finally unified in their desire to do something to keep him in check. Each of the other monarchs would benefit from France being pushed back. Russia wanted to regain control of Poland, Prussia was keen to expand its borders, Austria wanted to reassert its power, and Britain was keen to expand its colonies. Forcing France back to its natural borders (that is to say up to the Rhine) or even further back to the borders of 1790 would rebalance the geopolitics of the continent.”
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The moral of the story, then, seems to be that unchecked ambition and rampant imperialism, all fueled by the desire to leave behind a legacy and a male heir, is what led to the fall of the French Empire. This might be where the idea that the divorce led to Napoleon’s fall comes from, even if historians agree that’s not quite accurate — or at least not the whole story.
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Poetically, though, Napoleon expressed feeling as though the loss of Josephine impacted him politically. “Napoleon used to always talk about his star, his star meaning his luck that allowed him to rise,” Sarkozy says. “And toward the end of his life, in exile, he does make a comment that his star began to fade when he divorced Josephine. But I don’t think he would have agreed that it was the reason why the empire fell.” Still, it makes for a heartwarming last line in a movie that otherwise offers little insight into the notorious ruler. As Scott’s vision of Josephine intones from beyond the grave, “Come to me, Napoleon, and let us try this again.”
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A mine warning sign is seen in the area where demining takes place, Kharkiv Region, north-eastern Ukraine. | Vyacheslav Madiyevskyi / Ukrinform/Future Publishing via Getty Images
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ukraThe sign is red, marked with a skull and crossbones and a warning: “Danger mines!” In parts of Ukraine that were contested or controlled by Russian forces, these are reminders that even in territory Ukraine has defended or retaken, the land itself is not fully liberated from war.
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<a href="https://www.vox.com/russia">Russia</a>’s full-scale invasion has made Ukraine one of the most mined countries in the world. In less than two years, the conflict has potentially created one of the largest demining challenges since World War II.
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This includes anti-tank mines, which target vehicles — though if triggered, they do not distinguish between a battle tank and a school bus. There are also anti-personnel mines, which are intended to kill or hurt people, and more makeshift explosives, like booby traps, that serve similar aims. Unexploded artillery and cluster munitions also litter the landscape. <a href="https://www.vox.com/23819064/ukraine-war-counteroffensive-russia-mines-tanks">Both sides have been firing off tens of thousands of rounds of artillery each da</a>y. Even if only a small percentage of those are duds, they can still detonate, maim, and kill, sometimes long after the fighting.
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About 174,000 square kilometers of Ukraine is suspected to be contaminated with mines and unexploded ordnance, called UXOs. It is an area about the size of Florida, about 30 percent of Ukraine’s territory. This estimate accounts for land occupied by Russia since its full-scale invasion, along with recaptured areas, everywhere from the <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/despite-losing-limbs-ukrainian-sappers-return-work-clearing-land-mines-2023-10-25/">Kharkiv region</a> in the east to areas around Kyiv, like <a href="https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/06/15/background-briefing-landmine-use-ukraine">Bucha</a>. <a href="https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/06/13/landmine-use-ukraine">According to Human Rights Watch</a>, mines have been documented in 11 of Ukraine’s 27 regions.
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Map of Ukrainian territories that could potentially be contaminated by explosive objects as of April 2023.
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Still, the 174,000 square kilometer figure is likely an overestimate, experts and international deminers say. Russia would not have the time, ability, or need to mine every inch of contested land. But until deminers or officials can confirm areas suspected of contamination free from it, the outcomes look the same. That land is off-limits.
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“For every football pitch that is contaminated, there’s probably 100 football pitches that are not,” said Paul Heslop, chief technical adviser and program manager for mine action at the United Nations Development Program in Ukraine. “The humanitarian impact comes from the land that is contaminated because obviously you don’t get hurt if you walk through a minefield that isn’t a minefield,” Heslop added. “But the economic impact, and perhaps the social impact, and the impact on the global <a href="https://www.vox.com/economy">economy</a>, on global food security, is coming from the 100 minefields that are not minefields.”
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What is known — that Ukraine is heavily mined and polluted by unexploded remnants of war — and what is not — where, exactly, these dangers exist — are twin problems Ukraine faces. It takes resources, people, and time to declare places largely free from hazards.
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And, right now, a lot of Ukrainian land is still inaccessible, under Russian control or too close to the front lines. That makes it unsafe for humanitarian deminers and vulnerable to recontamination. In the areas deminers can access, it takes even more resources and time to map those locations and then undertake the meticulous and perilous process of clearing mines and returning the land, fully, back to Ukraine.
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But until either happens, it deepens and compounds the crisis for Ukrainian civilians in wartime. If a power station is suspected of being mined, technicians might not be able to quickly restore electricity if it goes out. An ambulance might have to take a longer route to the hospital to avoid particular roads.
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The scale of the problem is so vast in Ukraine and the resources so finite — even with <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-says-allies-commit-244-mln-humanitarian-demining-2023-07-26/">increasing</a> international assistance and support — that authorities must prioritize. What can’t be investigated or cleared immediately may get cordoned off and marked with a warning sign.
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The risks remain. As of this summer, the HALO Trust, an international demining NGO, <a href="https://www.halotrust.org/latest/halo-updates/news/james-cleverly-visits-halo-ukraine/#:~:text=It%20has%20recorded%20over%20700,in%20Kharkiv%20and%20Mykolaiv%20regions.">recorded</a> at least <a href="https://www.halotrust.org/latest/halo-updates/news/james-cleverly-visits-halo-ukraine/#:~:text=HALO%20has%20visited%20over%20800,too%20low%20because%20of%20underreporting.">700 civilian casualties because of land mines</a>, likely an undercount. In 2022 alone, the International Campaign to Ban Landmines <a href="http://www.icbl.org/media/3389440/landmine-monitor-2023_web.pdf">recorded more than 600 casualties from mines in Ukraine</a>, a tenfold increase from 2021. The Ukrainian government said in November <a href="https://au.news.yahoo.com/ukraine-says-more-260-civilians-092639040.html">that mines and explosives have killed 260 civilians </a>in 20 months of war. These mines and other unexploded devices will continue to complicate any rebuilding efforts and will injure and kill civilians now and potentially long after the hostilities end.
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Even when the guns have stopped firing, said Erik Tollefsen, head of the Weapon Contamination Unit at the <a href="https://twitter.com/ICRC">International Committee of the Red Cross</a>, “the land mines remain active.”
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This is a long-term challenge. Deminers are still <a href="https://www.voanews.com/a/us-helps-to-remove-landmines-left-behind-after-wars-in-southeast-asia-/7041176.html">clearing mines and cluster munitions</a> from Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia used by Americans in the Vietnam War. Farmers in Belgium and France, <a href="https://theworld.org/stories/2023-08-04/iron-harvest-belgian-team-unearths-unexploded-ammunition-wwi">even now, find</a> unexploded World War I shells buried in fields.
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Ukraine already had demining operations ongoing before Russia’s full-scale invasion, to find ordnance from World War II and from Russia’s 2014 incursion. Deminers in Ukraine are still finding munitions from the WWII era now, as they begin, bit by bit, to rescue territory from the ongoing war.
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Why Ukraine may be one of the biggest clearance challenges since World War II
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The front line in the Ukraine war may be the the most heavily mined terrain on the planet. Russian troops built a formidable defensive belt, laid and relaid, that <a href="https://www.vox.com/23819064/ukraine-war-counteroffensive-russia-mines-tanks">stymied</a> Ukraine’s counteroffensive.
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Ukraine, too, <a href="https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2023/04/12/why-so-many-russian-tanks-fall-prey-to-ukrainian-mines">has laid anti-tank mines to slow Russian advances</a>, and Western partners — <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/21/us/politics/ukraine-weapons-land-mines.html">including the US</a> — have transferred anti-tank mines to Ukraine. Human Rights Watch <a href="https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/06/13/landmine-use-ukraine">has also alleged</a> that Ukrainian troops fired anti-personnel mines near the town of Izium, in the <a href="https://www.vox.com/c/world-politics/2023/5/10/23630754/russia-ukraine-war-kharkiv-city-transformed">Kharkiv</a> region, which it recaptured from Russia last year. Ukraine is party to the <a href="https://www.apminebanconvention.org/en/newsroom/article/article/landmine-treaty-president-to-engage-with-ukraine-on-allegations-of-use-of-prohibited-weapon/">1997 convention that bans the use of anti-personnel mines</a> (Russia is not), and Ukrainian authorities have <a href="https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/06/30/ukraine-promises-inquiry-banned-landmine-use">said they will investigate</a>.
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The Ukrainian front line extends <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2023/russia-ukraine-front-line-map/">hundreds of miles</a>, a daunting minefield. But the boundaries are clear and have been largely static, especially in the past year. Deminers know mines will be found here when the war ends.
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The challenge exists when mines are not placed in patterns or appropriately mapped (as militaries are supposed to do), and instead are laid haphazardly or in a rush — or with the intention of terrorizing, as Russia has done in its withdrawal from parts of Ukraine. Ukrainian authorities have reportedly <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/russias-mining-everywhere-ukraine-explosives-fridges-toys-books-military-engineers-2023-8">found mines in refrigerators or in toys</a>. Russian troops have planted <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQdsUbNSnzA">booby traps</a> or <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/10/world/europe/russia-booby-traps-ukraine-war.html">grenades rigged with tripwires</a>, making them even trickier to remove. Retreating Russian forces <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-landmine-strewn-front-even-corpses-can-kill-2023-08-03/">have booby trapped the bodies of dead soldiers</a>. President Volodymyr Zelenskyy <a href="https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/yevropa-ne-maye-prava-reaguvati-movchannyam-na-te-sho-vidbuv-74029">has accused</a> Russia of mining the bodies of people killed.
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“The Russians are incredibly crafty when it comes to placing booby traps, and they do it to catch out the unwary,” said Col. Bob Seddon, former head of bomb disposal in the British Army. “It’s not always to catch out the military that we’ve seen. In some of the villages and towns that the Russians have abandoned, they have left booby traps in civilian dwellings to catch out civilians returning.”
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A deminer of the charitable fund Demining of Ukraine uses a metal detector to search for mines in the field near the town of Derhachi, Kharkiv region, on October 1, 2023.
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A Ukrainian poster warning of booby traps left behind by Russian invasion forces after they retreated from this Donbas city last October is stuck to the boarded door of an administration building in Lyman, Ukraine, on April 24, 2023.
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Mines are only one slice of the larger problem of UXO contamination. “It’s the artillery shells, and then it’s everything that is used in the course of the battle and is potentially hazardous because it’s explosive, and it hasn’t already exploded,” said Suzanne Fiederlein, director of the <a href="https://www.jmu.edu/cisr/">Center for International Stabilization and Recovery</a> at James Madison University. Cluster munitions, which the <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/2023/7/7/23785820/cluster-bombs-ukraine-united-states-biden-treaty">US started sending to Ukraine this summer</a>, release dozens of bomblets when fired, which scatter about and don’t always immediately explode as they should. But these cluster bombs, along with other kinds of artillery, can still be triggered later, detonating if they’re just slightly disturbed or picked up or moved.
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“Just everywhere you can imagine, these things are just lying in wait,” said Col. Matt Dimmick (Ret.), Europe Regional Program Manager for Spirit of America, describing the aftermath of combat.
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Military deminers and combat engineers must clear mines quickly, often under fire, so troops can advance. It is not about removing every single explosive, but instead creating a safe path to breach defensive lines.
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<em>[In the video above, the Ukrainian band Океан Ельзи has made a music video for its song “I’m going home” that follows the training and journey of a deminer.]</em>
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Humanitarian demining and clearance operate under a different set of rules. The standard is clear everything, with as much confidence as possible. Ukraine also has its own national mine action standards, developed from its robust experience of clearing ordnance from World War II and the 2014 conflict in the Donbas.
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The first step is determining where the mine or ordnance contamination might be. Right now, Ukraine is working with that wide, wide net — basically, anywhere Russian troops entered or held — and needs to whittle away from there. The process begins with a nontechnical survey, which is a kind of fact-finding mission. Some places are easy to pinpoint: If active fighting occurred or a land mine or bomb goes off, it is a pretty sure sign the land is hazardous.
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It can also mean scouring social media posts and local news reports. “This is people with binoculars, people going out with rudimentary search equipment to try and determine where the limits of explosive ordnance contamination exist,” Seddon said.
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Teams will interview locals, the mayor, policemen, or even the military to try to gather more information. Satellite imagery helps, as do evolving technologies like drones and thermal imaging.
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As the potential contaminated area narrows, the techniques become more precise: teams on the ground using metal detectors or dogs. (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JviHMKvQIJA">Patron is Ukraine’s official mine-sniffing mascot</a>.) The goal of all of this is to reduce and reduce the area to what actually needs to be cleared to finally allow teams to go in and start to remove the mines.
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Except, right now in Ukraine, not every mine and unexploded ordnance can be removed. It is an active conflict, and an overhead strike or heavy shelling can recontaminate the land almost instantly. Ukraine does not have the resources, equipment, or people to remove every land mine right now.
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<a href="https://www.me.gov.ua/Documents/Detail?lang=en-GB&id=0e02d844-e2b4-4919-83c8-1aca4c53d7ff&title=DeputyMinisterOfEconomyOfUkraineBezkaravainyiIhor">Ihor Bezkaravainyi</a>, Ukraine’s Deputy Minister of Economy who oversees land mine clearance, said Ukraine is prioritizing “demining for civilian needs.” The aim is to make the land as usable and as safe as possible until everything can be cleared at a later time. “We can’t demine all dangerous parts of Ukraine at the same time,” he said.
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This kind of mine clearance is what Heslop called “outcomes driven.” Full clearance — that is, removing every single mine — is not feasible with stretched resources and a fluid conflict. Instead, deminers may clear an area around a power station so workers can access it for necessary repairs and maintenance, but marking off the rest for future operations. Teams might remove mines so a farmer can plant at least some of his acreage, but not all of it. In a war, those are the trade-offs Ukraine has to make.
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“We cleared this area and the power transformer was installed and 5,000 people got electricity. We cleared this area and a bridge was rebuilt, which took down the travel time to a hospital from four hours to 15 minutes,” Heslop said.
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Ryan Hendrickson, a retired Green Beret for the US Army Special Forces and <a href="https://linktr.ee/rmhendrickson.tipofthespear">founder of Tip of the Spear Landmine Removal</a>, has been working with a team with on mine clearance in Ukraine. He said in early 2022, when Russia started leaving places like Bucha and Irpin to focus on the Donbas, people slowly started returning to their homes. It reminded him a bit of the aftermath of a hurricane or flood: people returning to see what’s left.
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As they returned, so did the risks of land mines and other munitions buried among the ruins. The fear is that people, lives already disrupted by war, cannot wait for demining operations. Residents want to restart and rebuild, so they will move and sort through the rubble themselves. Farmers want to plow their fields, and so they’ll rig up makeshift machines to try to pull mines up themselves.
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Education and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQk5K957xNw">awareness campaigns</a> attempt to mitigate this risk. In Ukraine, announcements warning of land mines broadcast on the radio and blast out across social media. Animated ads run on trains, especially important to warn any Ukrainians who may be newly returning to their homes. Kids get coloring books, warning them not to touch things that look like mines. Patron, Ukraine’s mine-sniffing dog, visits schools and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMSS6diyXQE">stars in music videos</a>. Teams go door to door. There are murals everywhere. “It looks like propaganda, but we need to do it because it’s simple rules, and all Ukrainians must know about it,” Bezkaravainyi said.
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These tools fill the gaps until Ukraine can scale up, which can probably only happen on a large scale when the fighting ends. The US has pledged more than $182 million for humanitarian demining efforts, and other international donors and organizations are dedicating resources there. Ukrainian groups and figures sometimes crowdfund on social media, like Ukrainian comedian Mark Kutsevalov, who is raising money for demining equipment, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CzweY6tNd9c/">documenting his efforts on Instagram</a>.
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But the World Bank estimates <a href="https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/07/1138477">it will cost about $37 billion</a> to demine Ukraine. Even with assistance and expertise from international NGOs and other organizations, much demining <a href="https://u24.gov.ua/">is done by Ukrainians themselves</a> — school teachers, taxi drivers, and moms who are trained in the incredibly dangerous work. Ukraine has about <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/more-than-260-civilians-killed-after-stepping-mines-explosives-ukraine-2023-11-01/">3,000 demining specialists</a>, <a href="https://www.mining.com/ukraines-new-mine-action-centre-to-train-3000-deminers-with-investment-from-metinvest/">with plans to train more</a>, though Ukrainian officials have <a href="https://au.news.yahoo.com/ukraine-says-more-260-civilians-092639040.html">said they need thousands more</a>.
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Ukraine’s deep experience with demining has also become something of a hindrance, as rules put in place to protect safety procedures and processes add to the bureaucracy and red tape. Officials in Ukraine are aware of these challenges, but changing the laws requires acts of Parliament. Some of it, too, is Ukraine’s desire to show its population that demining is a priority and that the government is capable of delivering to its population.
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This is a problem for Ukraine now, as the war, and if and when the fighting ends. This isn’t a new lesson of conflict; the world’s experiences with the long-tail dangers to civilians from mines and artillery led to global conventions banning anti-personnel mines and cluster munitions. But the efforts to protect civilians, in the near- and long-term, often collide with the realities of the battlefield. Militaries use land mines because, on the battlefield, they believe they work in combat.
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But the weapons themselves do not discriminate between tank or ambulance, soldier or civilian. Which means, in Ukraine, some cities and towns exist in a precarious limbo, free of Russian occupation, but not its remnants. “I used to go here before February 24. I could go over here,” Hendrickson said, describing the frustration of some Ukrainian communities. “Why can’t I go there now? Why is there red tape and a mine sign in front of this? I want my land back. I want my home back. I want — boom.”
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Over the next two weeks, an estimated 70,000 people will gather in Dubai for the United Nations COP28 summit. It’s the world’s largest and highest-stakes climate conference, where world leaders gather every year to assess the state of <a href="https://www.vox.com/climate">global warming</a> and set targets to slow it down.
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As attendees break for meals between meetings, negotiations, and panel discussions, they may notice one striking difference between COP28 and past UN climate conferences: There won’t be much meat on the menu. After a months-long effort by the youth-led <a href="https://foodatcop.com/?p=2130">Food@COP</a> coalition, the United Arab Emirates environment minister, Mariam Almheiri, <a href="https://www.zawya.com/en/press-release/events-and-conferences/he-mariam-almheiri-unveils-cop-first-as-uae-targets-climate-conscious-catering-for-set-piece-climate-conference-m01izjl1">announced</a> last month that two-thirds of the food served at the event will be plant-based.
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“We know that our food systems are intrinsically linked to the fate of our natural world, and so we have made the progressive decision to ensure that we explore how the catering provided across the event can be responsible and climate conscious,” Almheiri said in a <a href="https://www.zawya.com/en/press-release/events-and-conferences/he-mariam-almheiri-unveils-cop-first-as-uae-targets-climate-conscious-catering-for-set-piece-climate-conference-m01izjl1">press release</a>.
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Almheiri was alluding to a fact often overlooked in climate discussions: <a href="https://ourworldindata.org/greenhouse-gas-emissions-food">One-third</a> of global greenhouse gas emissions can be attributed to food, with meat and dairy accounting for the <a href="https://josephpoore.com/Science%20360%206392%20987%20-%20Accepted%20Manuscript.pdf">lion’s share</a> of it but providing just <a href="https://josephpoore.com/Science%20360%206392%20987%20-%20Accepted%20Manuscript.pdf">18 percent</a> of the world’s calories. Meat and dairy production are also leading causes of other environmental ills, including <a href="https://ourworldindata.org/drivers-of-deforestation">deforestation</a>, <a href="https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22287498/meat-wildlife-biodiversity-species-plantbased">biodiversity loss</a>, <a href="https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-intensive-lower-carbon-animal-farming-could-raise-pandemic-risks/">pandemic risk</a>, and <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/31/avoiding-meat-and-dairy-is-single-biggest-way-to-reduce-your-impact-on-earth">water pollution</a>. Dairy production alone emits more greenhouse gases than <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/nov/29/plans-to-present-meat-as-sustainable-nutrition-at-cop28-revealed">global aviation</a>. Plant-based foods typically have a much <a href="https://www.vox.com/22787178/beyond-impossible-plant-based-vegetarian-meat-climate-environmental-impact-sustainability">smaller carbon footprint</a>, and require far less <a href="https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2023/10/20/23924061/public-grazing-land-cattle-meat-carbon-opportunity-cost">land</a> and <a href="https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/23655640/colorado-river-water-alfalfa-dairy-beef-meat">water</a>.
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COP’s catering move marks a notable change from the meat-heavy menus typically found at the annual conference, which some have <a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/cop/meat-menu-not-agenda-cop27-climate-conference-2022-11-15/">criticized</a> as misaligned with its very goal. But a plant-based shift is unlikely to be found where it would count the most — in the conference negotiations where climate targets are set.
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As greenhouse gas emissions from animal agriculture have become increasingly difficult to ignore, global policymakers now stand at a fork in the road on how to address them. <a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(19)30245-1/fulltext">Numerous</a> environmental <a href="https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2022/4/22/23036010/eat-less-meat-vegetarian-effects-climate-emissions-animal-welfare-factory-farms">scientists</a>, including some who’ve published studies on the matter for <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/aug/03/ipcc-land-use-food-production-key-to-climate-crisis-leaked-report">the UN,</a> have called on wealthy countries to cut back on <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/10/huge-reduction-in-meat-eating-essential-to-avoid-climate-breakdown">meat</a> and eat more plant-based meals — a sure way to slash agricultural emissions, but politically challenging.
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And certainly not with the diet of Americans, who eat almost <a href="https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-meat-consumption-by-type-kilograms-per-year?country=USA~Europe+%28FAO%29">70 percent more meat</a> per capita than Europeans, and <a href="https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-meat-consumption-by-type-kilograms-per-year?country=OWID_WRL~USA">200 percent more</a> than the global average — so much that if the US sustains its current level of meat consumption and doesn’t change its farming practices, while the energy and <a href="https://www.vox.com/transportation">transportation</a> sectors decarbonize, agriculture could become the <a href="https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news/2023/02/will-agriculture-be-americas-leading-source-greenhouse-gas-emissions">biggest source</a> of America’s emissions by 2050. That would be a climate travesty, and one that could be averted — if only American and other world leaders were willing to address the cow in the room.
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COP28 will dedicate more attention to food emissions than previous COP summits, including a few panel discussions on plant-based eating and <a href="https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23849473/cell-cultivated-meat-impossible-beyond-alternatives-vegan-investment-report-infrastructure">meat alternative technology</a>. The UN will also launch a <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-26/eat-less-meat-is-message-for-rich-world-in-food-s-first-net-zero-plan">new report</a> that will call for, among other priorities, lowering meat consumption in rich countries in order to improve <a href="https://www.vox.com/public-health">public health</a> and lower agricultural emissions. But some environmental and <a href="https://www.vox.com/animal-welfare">animal welfare</a> advocates worry the topic will get short shrift at COP’s negotiations.
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There are a few ways countries set climate targets at COP. The main one is through a country’s <a href="https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/all-about-ndcs#:~:text=Simply%20put%2C%20an%20NDC%2C%20or,update%20it%20every%20five%20years.">Nationally Determined Contribution</a> (NDC), a plan that outlines how they will mitigate greenhouse gas emissions and adapt to climate change, and how progress will be monitored. According to the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), only a few countries mention making diets more sustainable in their NDCs — and they’re all low- and middle-income countries that already eat relatively small amounts of animal products.
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Another avenue nations use to set climate goals at COP is through joint work programs, in which countries come together to coordinate on specific issues. One focuses on agriculture, but at <a href="https://unfccc.int/sites/default/files/resource/cp2022_10a01_adv.pdf">last year’s COP</a>, there was no mention of shifting diets to be more plant-based — only of tinkering with how farmed animals are raised as a means to reducing emissions.
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Reached for comment on whether the US will propose shifting diets to be more plant-based or <a href="https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23849473/cell-cultivated-meat-impossible-beyond-alternatives-vegan-investment-report-infrastructure">investing in meat alternative technologies</a> at COP28, the US Department of Agriculture didn’t directly respond, but pointed Vox to its investments in so-called <a href="https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2022/8/13/23301768/inflation-reduction-act-agriculture-meat-dairy-farming-plant-based">“climate-smart” farming practices</a>, like paying farmers to plant cover crops and improve manure management, through the <a href="https://www.vox.com/2022/8/8/23296951/inflation-reduction-act-biden-democrats-climate-change">Inflation Reduction Act</a>. But these are <a href="https://newrepublic.com/article/167267/climate-farming-inflation-reduction-act">unlikely</a> to make much of a dent in emissions and in some cases, could further expand livestock production.
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For example, as part of its climate-smart agriculture program, the US is funding meat giant Tyson Foods to develop <a href="https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2023/9/8/23863100/tyson-climate-friendly-beef-burger-usda">“climate-friendly” beef</a>. Neither the USDA nor Tyson have disclosed what makes it “climate-friendly,” a label that might cause people to eat even more beef — which has the highest carbon footprint of any food — and thereby further increase agricultural emissions.
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Canada’s agriculture agency pointed Vox to its <a href="https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/protein-industries-canada-supercluster-kicks-into-high-gear-700404731.html">significant investments</a> in developing the country’s plant-based protein industry, but didn’t directly respond about its NDC or agricultural negotiations. The agriculture agencies of the United Kingdom and Australia didn’t respond to requests for comment.
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The European Commission (the <a href="https://www.vox.com/european-union">EU</a>’s executive branch) pointed to an <a href="https://data.consilium.europa.eu/doc/document/ST-14286-2023-INIT/en/pdf">updated version</a> of its NDC and <a href="https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/speech_23_5275">recent remarks</a> made by its climate action commissioner, each of which calls for emissions reductions in agriculture but don’t contain any specifics on how that could be achieved.
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The COP28 <a href="https://data.consilium.europa.eu/doc/document/ST-15436-2023-INIT/en/pdf">“Leaders Declaration”</a> on sustainable agriculture has received a lot of buzz and is expected to be signed by close to <a href="https://civileats.com/2023/10/16/will-a-food-and-ag-focus-at-cop28-distract-from-the-uaes-fossil-fuel-economy/">100 world leaders</a>. But it won’t do much — it merely commits governments to include agriculture in their NDCs by the time COP30 is held in 2025, and it doesn’t name any specific actions, nor any mention of livestock emissions and plant-based diets.
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The disinterest from Western governments in shifting diets isn’t surprising — meat remains the <a href="https://thebreakthrough.org/journal/no-15-winter-2022/meat-vortex-alternative-protein">third rail</a> of climate politics. It tastes good, it’s become a mainstay of Western diets, and it’s become linked to ideals like <a href="https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-are-low-and-middle-income-countries-bound-to-eat-more-meat/">prosperity</a> and <a href="https://qz.com/622306/men-think-they-need-to-eat-meat-to-be-manly-and-its-making-them-sick">masculinity</a>. Taking it off the menu to help save the planet isn’t <a href="https://newrepublic.com/article/163079/convince-people-eat-less-meat">politically popular</a>, so even eco-minded politicians, <a href="https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23778399/media-ignores-climate-change-beef-meat-dairy">environmental activists, and climate reporters</a> largely avoid the issue.
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“Countries are realizing now at least that they have to include food systems within the NDCs — we’re seeing some progress around that,” Podselver said. “But there is still a lack of connection with the key topic, which is of course livestock, and I would say the rebalancing of protein intake between the [global] North and the South.”
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Podselver said that in his conversations with European COP delegates, there’s acknowledgment that the West needs to cut back on meat, but it’s rarely said publicly due to fear of being attacked from “all corners.” From <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2021/4/26/22403599/biden-red-meat-ban-burger-kudlow">the US</a> to <a href="https://newrepublic.com/article/163079/convince-people-eat-less-meat?blinkaction=newsletter!amp_newsletter">Spain</a> to <a href="https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/23627509/netherlands-dairy-cow-protests-seeds-farming-agriculture-climate">the Netherlands</a> and <a href="https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22360062/meat-vegetarian-vegan-lyon-france-culture-identity">beyond</a>, policy discussions around shrinking the livestock sector or reducing meat consumption can quickly set off inflammatory debate and even <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/dutch-farmers-emissions-global-right-wing-culture-war-rcna60269">conspiracy theories</a>.
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The EAT-Lancet Commission — a <a href="https://eatforum.org/eat-lancet-commission/eat-lancet-commission-2-0/the-commission/">panel</a> of distinguished nutrition, agriculture, and climate experts — recommends no more than <a href="https://eatforum.org/lancet-commission/eatinghealthyandsustainable/#:~:text=Go%20easy%20on%20meat%20consumption,grams%20of%20fish%20per%20week.">57 pounds</a> of meat per person per year for optimal personal and planetary health, far less than the <a href="https://farmdocdaily.illinois.edu/2021/05/an-overview-of-meat-consumption-in-the-united-states.html">264 pounds</a> of meat Americans consume annually. In fact, most of the world exceeds the commission’s recommendation.
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In 2020, 55 percent of the global population lived in a country where annual per capita meat consumption exceeded the EAT-Lancet benchmark of 57 pounds of meat. If you exclude <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/07/08/eight-in-ten-indians-limit-meat-in-their-diets-and-four-in-ten-consider-themselves-vegetarian/">India</a>, where most people avoid meat or intentionally eat less of it for religious and cultural reasons, that figure shoots up to almost three-quarters of the global population.
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One event at COP28 will likely square these competing approaches — dietary change versus farming practices and<strong> </strong>techno-fixes — that lie at the heart of the debate over how to shrink agriculture’s carbon footprint. On the final day of the conference, the FAO will publish a <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-26/eat-less-meat-is-message-for-rich-world-in-food-s-first-net-zero-plan">new report</a> intended to be a “roadmap” for what the farming sector must do by 2050 to ensure an abundant, healthy food supply while keeping global warming under 1.5°C.
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The report came about after <a href="https://www.fairr.org/investor-statements/roadmap-to-2050">pressure</a> from Farm Animal Investment Risk & Return (FAIRR), an organization that leverages the power of investors to address the environmental and social risks of factory farming. Helena Wright, FAIRR’s policy director, told Vox a <a href="https://www.iea.org/reports/net-zero-by-2050">similar</a> 2021 report by the International Energy Agency was influential in pushing the energy sector to decarbonize, and she hopes FAO’s new report will do the same for the food sector. FAIRR endorses a variety of approaches, including industry-friendly changes like tinkering with how livestock are fed and farmed, as well as longer-term efforts like shifting diets to be more plant-based.
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Meat and dairy aren’t cheap and plentiful in the Global North because of the inherent economics of food production, but rather due to decades of deliberate governmental policy that has heavily favored the livestock industry over more sustainable protein sources, like <a href="https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2023/5/12/23717519/beans-protein-nutrition-sustainability-climate-food-security-solution-vegan-alternative-meat">beans and lentils</a>, or newer alternatives like <a href="https://www.vox.com/2019/5/28/18626859/meatless-meat-explained-vegan-impossible-burger">Beyond burgers</a> made from pea protein.
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For example, the US livestock industry is <a href="https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2023/8/31/23852325/farming-myths-agricultural-exceptionalism-pollution-labor-animal-welfare-laws">exempt</a> from numerous animal welfare, labor, and pollution regulations. Many voters <a href="https://thefern.org/ag_insider/majority-want-more-oversight-of-cafos-poll-finds/">often</a> <a href="https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23745935/proposition-12-pigs-pork-california-eggs-veal-hens">support</a> closing these loopholes, and doing so would make the price of animal products more appropriately reflect their costs to society, helping to level the <a href="https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news/2023/08/usda-livestock-subsidies-top-59-billion">playing field</a> on which other, more sustainable foods compete against meat and dairy. So would reforming <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/unearthed-a-rallying-cry-for-a-crop-program-that-could-change-everything/2015/02/01/ea7988b2-a741-11e4-a06b-9df2002b86a0_story.html">agricultural subsidies</a>, which heavily favor livestock companies. For example, the federal government leases <a href="https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2023/10/20/23924061/public-grazing-land-cattle-meat-carbon-opportunity-cost">10 percent of the continental US</a> to ranchers to graze their cattle at astonishingly low prices, and over the last 25 years, the majority of the near <a href="https://www.ewg.org/research/updated-ewg-farm-subsidy-database-shows-largest-producers-reap-billions-despite-climate">half a trillion dollars</a> in subsidies for farmers have gone to those who grow crops fed to livestock or used in biofuels.
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Governments could also consider <a href="https://time.com/6330520/climate-warning-labels-on-meat-study/">labeling</a> foods with their carbon footprint to help consumers make more informed food choices, Laborde of the FAO said. He also pointed out that governments around the world can help shift diets by changing what type of food they buy for public services like school cafeterias, a strategy that’s been <a href="https://www.fedgoodfoodpurchasing.org/impact-analysis">proposed</a> by US environmental advocates. The US could also commit to stop <a href="https://money.cnn.com/2011/08/16/news/economy/chicken_prices/index.htm#:~:text=The%20Department%20of%20Agriculture%2C%20keenly,its%20national%20Feeding%20America%20programs.">buying up</a> excess meat and <a href="https://www.vox.com/2016/10/13/13268980/cheese-glut-united-states">dairy</a> when corporations overproduce, like the purchase of <a href="https://www.nationalhogfarmer.com/market-news/nppc-applauds-usda-s-50-1m-pork-purchase">$50 million in pork</a> earlier this year or the <a href="https://www.usda.gov/media/press-releases/2016/10/11/usda-announces-plans-purchase-surplus-cheese-releases-new-report">$20 million cheese buy</a> of 2016.
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These ideas haven’t yet found their way into global climate commitments, and changing that would take real political courage (and persuasion), which likely won’t be found at COP28. But you could look at it another way: This year’s conference — more than any previous year’s — will at least get the broader climate community talking about food emissions, including livestock’s outsize role.
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